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Finding Brave


Mar 18, 2021

Thank you for listening to our Finding Brave show, ranked in the Top 100 Apple Career Podcasts!

“We realized, as we were sitting around thinking in the aftermath of that first book, that we really think there is something here. When we started to dig into it, we started to see some of the data and we realized there is a gap worth writing about.” - Claire Shipman

“Claire and I have become confident women through the choices and the risks that we’ve taken and the hurdles we’ve overcome. We’ve kept going with things and mastered them, and that’s how you do it. The vast majority of your confidence is in your hands, and it’s what you choose to do right now.” - Katty Kay

We are at a pivotal cultural moment for women’s leadership and representation—a time, for instance, when all eyes will be on the first-ever female and woman of color Vice President of the United States—and it’s clear that role models matter. Today’s Finding Brave guests are not only fantastic role models themselves for women of all ages, but they have written a new book called Living the Confidence Code: Real Girls. Real Stories. Real Confidence that highlights extraordinary girls who took risks and made a big impact. Their subjects sometimes doubted themselves, and even failed, but through it all discovered what matters most to them and found the confidence to accomplish their goals.

Katty Kay and Claire Shipman (along with JillEllyn Riley), are the bestselling authors of The Confidence Code for Girls and The Confidence Code for Girls Journal. Katty and Claire, longtime friends, have been writing books together for over a decade. They’ve also co-written the New York Times bestsellers Womenomics and The Confidence Code.

Katty Kay is the anchor of BBC World News America, based in Washington, D.C. She is also a frequent contributor to Meet the Press and Morning Joe, and a regular guest host for The Diane Rehm Show on NPR. In addition to her work on women’s issues, Katty has covered the Clinton administration sex scandal; four presidential elections; and the wars in Kosovo, Afghanistan, and Iraq. She was at the Pentagon just 20 minutes after a hijacked plane flew into the building on 9/11 and of her most vivid journalistic memories is of interviewing soldiers still visibly shaking from the attack.

Claire Shipman is a journalist, author, and public speaker. Before turning to writing, Claire spent almost three decades as an award-winning television journalist. For the last 14 years Claire was a regular contributor to Good Morning America and other national broadcasts for ABC News. Before that she served as White House correspondent for NBC News where she regularly reported on presidential policy and politics for NBC Nightly News and TODAY.

I’ve been heavily influenced by Katty and Claire in my own work, and what they’ve done is given research and factual data to what so many of us have suspected about how confidence is curtailed and diminished, but also how it expands in the lives of girls and young women around the world, and why that matters. Their mission, along with the stories of those girls they feature, is deeply inspiring and motivating and is helping motivate a whole new generation of female leaders.

To learn more about today's guests, visit: https://www.confidencecodegirls.com/